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CHINA 分析:Foxconn 富士康深圳員工自殺和生命尊嚴

Do you trust a microblog? Most people will require more proof.

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Foxconn Longhua building C4, double suicide reported widely on Internet: Numbers 14, 15 suicides at Foxconn, Xiang Jianxin, Sina.com microblogger, lastest scoop, at around noon, double suicide at Foxconn Longhua C4 building, terrible sight at the scene, the scene has been sealed off. Details need to be confirmed.
富士康龙华C4栋双人跳 富士康惊人14跳15跳 16跳
May 27, 2010 Views Comments 0 富士康龙华C4栋双人跳已经在网络流传:富士康第14,15跳,项建新,新浪微博,最新爆料,12点左右,富士康龙华C4栋双人跳,现场惨不忍睹,现场被封锁。具体如何,还需要进一步确认。
富士康15连跳已经让在现场的媒体感到恐惧,有些记者已经打算不再跟了。到底是遭到诅咒还是压力的传染?有记者朋友怀疑富士康发给自杀者家庭40多万再加上其父母每年3万的养老金,让这些贫穷的打工者有样学样愿以一死换来家庭的保障。论调确实冷血,但如果是真的那就是我们整个社会的责任和悲剧。如果他们的死,是为了补偿金的话,那就另当别论了。富士康最新消息:欲16跳的人爬上了C3栋




BBC中文網記者 立行

深圳富士康員工在流水線上“每天像機器人一樣工作”
生產iphone、諾基亞等名牌產品的深圳富士康的員工頻頻跳樓自殺,原因到底何在?

截至今日,深圳富士康公司半年多內已有13人自殺。公司總裁坐鎮和當地政府的“高度關注”並未能阻止員工繼續自殺。

在第11名員工跳樓死亡後,富士康母公司的大老闆郭台銘週三罕見地親自陪同大批記者進入堔圳富士康園區,參觀該公司的“良好的”工作環境、運動娛樂設施和心理關懷中心。公司還建起各種防自殺的設施。

與此同時,深圳市政府發言人也就此召開記者會,表示“高度關注”。

但這一切為何沒能阻止當天就有第12名員工跳樓死亡,隨後第13名員工割腕自殺未遂。

關注富士康連續自殺事件的香港民間組織“大學師生監察無良企業行動”(簡稱SACOM)商務幹事陳詩韻女士指出,富士康員工工作壓力太大,工會或運動設施形同虛設,工人缺乏申訴壓力管道,導致悲劇不斷。

香港的社會學者丁學良也指出,到目前為止,企業沒有查找深層原因,而政府還在講空頭大話,沒有真正採取系統性的措施來防止悲劇繼續發生。

“智慧型機器人”

郭台銘否認其員工連續跳樓事件和工作壓力與企業管理有關。他將其歸咎于現在大陸年輕人心理承受能力不夠。

而深圳的官員說,富士康事件是社會轉型期的特殊問題,員工,企業,社會多方面的原因都有。但唯一沒提政府的監管失責。

就富士康的企業責任,SACOM近日在廠區外尋訪了一些富士康員工,這些員工都抱怨企業給他們的巨大壓力。

早有媒體透露,在富士康,勞動和睡覺幾乎成了大多數工人生活的全部,午飯從排隊到吃完只允許半個小時。由於在流水線上不停繁忙,工人之間也溝通很少,工作程式把工人們變成了流水線上的一個個“智慧型機器人”。無休止的加班加點則是常態。

SACOM的陳詩韻女士指出,富士康的運動休閒設施恐怕不是所有員工都能自由使用的。有的工人透露:“同樣一個動作就做十個小時,然後下班吃飯然後回宿舍睡覺”。在這種工作狀態下,誰還有精力去使用?也許管理層可以?

對於這種缺乏基本勞動保護的狀態,SACOM的陳詩韻女士指出,富士康的工會不代表工人利益,因為富士康工會主席就是大老闆郭台銘的秘書。

如何讓這些工人信賴由資本家領導的工會呢?

獨立工會

很多勞工組織指出,富士康的問題並不只是郭台銘個人或一家企業違反中國勞工法的問題。

上個月美國的非政府組織全國勞工委員會發現中國為微軟、HP和其他品牌加工的工廠工人在高溫下每天工作長達15個小時,一些企業還有性騷擾和監工淩辱員工等各種問題。

勞工權利活動人士指出,亞洲的“血汗工廠”不一定是像黑磚窯一樣,很多企業有寬敞明亮的廠房,但他們的工作模式都是長時間工作,低薪酬,沒有勞工權利,特別是沒有獨立申訴管道。

富士康2006年就受到過“血汗工廠”的指責。除了它在深圳的分廠外,這些年來它在中國大陸其它地區的分廠也多次出現過工人非正常死亡事件。

丁學良和陳詩韻都分別指出,解決富士康的問題除了企業查找自身原因,政府進行透明監管以外,必須讓工人成立他們自己的工會組織。

生命的尊嚴

一些當下的評論把富士康員工自殺稱作“意外”,還有評論說“富士康”的自殺率低於全國平均水準,言下之意,這沒什麼。

什麼樣的自殺或者什麼人的自殺才能震撼人們對他人生命的同情呢?

美國作家海明威因為不想再糾纏與疾病的折磨中,用獵槍自殺以維護尊嚴。他的自殺被人譽為樹立了“性格剛烈、自尊心堅強的男子漢形象”。

也許決不能拿富士康自殺的員工和海明威相比,他們沒那名氣、學識、地位,他們也許不像海明威一樣,懂得什麼叫做信仰。就像丁學良指出的那樣,他們沒有被當做人,而是被當做機器上的小螺絲釘。

不過,這些大概都沒讀過甚至不知道海明威的小人物之死,也同樣是出於不屈服於命運擺佈。

或許,也可以把這些不屈服於命運擺佈者稱作“有心理疾病的人”,甚至簡稱“精神病”,因為他們和我們“正常人”想法不同。但丁學良指出,必須認識到,這一代年輕人不再會像他們的父輩那樣很容易受到奴役。

我想起魯迅先生一百年前說過:“時間永是流駛,街市依舊太平,有限的幾個生命,在中國是不算什麼。”

也許一些中國人的財富在世界上“崛起”到21世紀了,但他們的精神狀態仍停留在魯迅鄙夷的一百年前。

Taiwan iPhone-maker Foxconn suffers another death
Page last updated at 14:46 GMT, Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:46 UK
E-mail this to a friend Printable version Critics say Foxconn employees work under military conditions Another suspected suicide has occurred at a factory in China, the latest in a string of deaths at the plant this year, state media reports.



Xinhua said the male employee jumped to his death hours after a media tour at
the plant owned by Taiwan firm Foxconn.

The firm manufactures mobile
phones and electronic equipment for top brands including Dell computers and
Apple.

The death would be the 10th suicide at the plant this year - two
other people have survived similar falls.

One man was also reported to
have killed himself at another Foxconn plant in Hebei province earlier this
year.

On Thursday, another employee in Shenzhen attempted to kill
himself by cutting his wrists but survived after medical attention, said Xinhua.

The Foxconn plant in Shenzhen employs more than 400,000 people.

'Determined'

Police officials said the man who died on Wednesday
was a 23-year-old from Gansu province, who had been working at the plant for
about a year.

Witnesses said he had jumped from the seventh floor of a
dormitory building, Xinhua reported.

Mr Gou said the company was trying
hard to prevent further deaths The death came just hours after the chairman of
Foxconn, Terry Gou, one of Taiwan's most famous businessmen, took reporters
around the vast Shenzhen plant.

Mr Gou apologised repeatedly, and said
he had trouble sleeping but would not stop trying to solve the problem.

"We need some time," he said. "But we are confident. We are extremely
determined."

The company is training counsellors and has provided
leisure facilities for the workers. It has also put up nets around the
buildings.

"Although this seems like a dumb measure, at least it could
save a life should anyone else fall," said Mr Gou.

Labour activists in
nearby Hong Kong have criticised alleged poor conditions at the factory and
called for a symbolic boycott of iPhones in protest.

The activists claim
shifts at the plant are long, the assembly line moves too fast and that managers
enforce military-style discipline on the workforce.

Foxconn points out
that despite the bad publicity, each day around 8,000 people still apply to work
at the factory.

Companies which commission work from the plant have said
they are concerned by the reports.

Sharon Zhang, a spokeswoman for Dell,
told the AFP news agency the company was investigating the reports.

"Any
reports of poor working conditions in Dell's supply chain are investigated and,
if warranted, appropriate action is taken. We expect our suppliers to employ the
same high standards we do in our own facilities," she said.

Hewlett
Packard said it was "investigating the Foxconn practices that may be associated
with these tragic events".

Apple, whose iPhones are made at the plant,
said it was "deeply committed to ensuring that conditions throughout our supply
chain are safe and workers are treated with respect and dignity".

Apple
has said it will evaluate what Foxconn is doing to address the problems and
continue ongoing inspections of the facilities where its products are made.




媒體為何回避富士康員工跳樓真正原因?
時間:2010-05-27 16:25
作者:徐明天

  當媒體鋪天蓋地指責富士康員工“十連跳”是企業管理和代工模式的原因,我們卻發現幾乎沒有紙面媒體披露員工跳樓的具體的真正原因。


  據我的瞭解,第一跳馬向前,家屬至今不承認是自殺,先說是其主管對其虐待所致,後說是被其老鄉打死,現在又說是環安科將其打死。


  第二跳是因為家庭經濟壓力,父親有病,家庭貧窮;第三跳是自己春節加班費被偷;第七跳是精神有問題,五一期間公司派其兩位同學陪伴,在其得知其父母第二天要到深圳,兩位同學陪他在公司賓館住宿,並企圖攔住其跳樓沒有成功。第八跳是因感情問題;第九跳家屬認為與工作調動有關係;第十跳原因公佈,南某欠下賭債數千元。


  一個多月來,富士康阻止了30多起不正常情況,多數為情感問題,女性為多。其中有一名員工要求其同在富士康已經分手的女友見面,並威脅要富士康為其支付25萬元,否則就要跳樓。一對湖北籍的男女員工,男員工打罵女員工逼其跳樓,說可以拿到賠償款。還有一個小夥子因女友分手,發短信給家裡說要跳樓,深圳、山西兩地發動眾多社會資源,才找到這個小夥子。


  另一個被回避的事實是,“十連跳”者多是進富士康幾個月的員工,最長的一年半,最少的只有28天。


  媒體回避的另一個事實是,富士康員工的自殺率遠遠低於社會的平均率。根據世衛組織2009年年底發佈的研究報告,09年全球自殺人數約100萬,中國自殺人數占全球的26%。以13億人口總量計,即每10萬人中自殺約20人(20/10萬)。該報告稱,在中國自殺已成為第五大死因,自殺居年輕女子的死因之首。


  媒體為什麼回避這些基本的事實呢?


  第一,為的賺眼球。其他公司有員工跳樓自殺,沒有人會報導。但是華為Huawei和富士康有員工自殺,就大版炒作。因為華為和富士康有名。比如,4月份深圳一天就有兩人跳樓,幾乎無人報導。廣州兩老鄉相約喝農藥自殺,一人自殺成功。杭州有三個“貧二代”集體自殺。這一類的事情多,但並沒有見諸報端,見報也無人關注。現在全國的媒體就守候在富士康門外,時刻準備報導跳樓事件。


  第二,深度報導就要推理企業管理方面的深刻原因。如果報導和分析員工跳樓的具體原因,就可能得出90後的心理和社會環境等問題,很難和企業扯到一起。如此,媒體就失去了焦點和深入報導的理由,媒體的此類報導顯得相當無知。這些記者根本就懂什麼是企業,什麼是管理,什麼是製造。


  第三,實際上,富士康員工“十連跳”和同期已經發生的10起學校暴力慘案,與媒體不負責任的報導有關係,國外將這種現象稱作“自殺傳染”和“暴力傳染”。特別是10起學校暴力慘案,有近百名兒童幼兒死傷,媒體根本無法講出某個學校的管理問題,是典型的媒體報導引發的“暴力傳染”。相對于學校暴力慘案,富士康員工跳樓事件相同地點、相同方式的“自殺傳染”更為典型。因此,媒體已經是國內年輕人跳樓事件的罪魁禍首。我在4月中旬就呼籲這個問題,但媒體至今不敢面對。


  第四,競爭對手已經借助這件事企圖打敗富士康。最近有一個富士康環保科打死員工再將員工從樓上拋下的貼子在網上廣泛散佈。這個貼子的原始出處是“安徽”,有人以此能猜測出幕後黑手來自何處。2005年,某媒體富士康“血汗工廠”的報導最早起自富士康國外的競爭對手,企圖撬走蘋果的訂單。現在媒體的報導,也有人猜測是受競爭對手的操縱。


  不過我認為,媒體應該客觀報導,才是負責任的。不應該為私利製造新聞。


來源:第一財經日報

Why Are The Media Evading The True Reasons Why Foxconn Workers Are Jumping Off Buildings?

(05/27/2010) (Xu Tianming at 21ccom.net)


At a time when the media are flooded with accusations that the "ten successive jumps" by Foxconn workers are due to their corporate management/sub-contractor model, we find that no press media are telling us the specific reasons why they are committing suicide.

My understanding is that the first suicide case was Ma Xiangqian, whose family still refuses to accept that he killed himself. First, they said that he died after being assaulted by his supervisors; next, they said that he was beaten to death by hometown workers; now they are saying that he was beaten to death by security guards.

The second suicide case was due to economic pressure on a person who has an ailing father and impoverished family circumstances. The third case was someone whose spring vacation overtime pay was stolen from him. The seventh case was a man with a mental problem. During the Labor Day holiday, Foxconn assigned two fellow students to keep him company. His parents were supposed to show up in Shenzhen the next day. The two fellow students stayed with him in the company hotel, but they failed to stop him from jumping. The eighth case was a person with romance problems. The family of the ninth case thinks that it had to do with a job transfer. The stated reason for the tenth case was that he owed several thousand yuan in gambling debt.

During the last month or so, Foxconn has already stopped more than 30 "abnormal" cases. Most of these involve emotional problems for women. One Foxconn worker demanded to meet with his ex-girlfriend who works at Foxconn. He also demanded 250,000 yuan from Foxconn or else he threatens to jump off the building. There was a couple from Hubei with the guy beating and berating the woman to jump off the building so that he could collect the compensation. Another young man broke up with girlfriend and sent a text message to his family to state his intention to commit suicide. This person was finally located after people in Shenzhen and Shanxi worked hard to find him.

Another unmentioned fact is that the "ten suicide cases" were relatively new workers at Foxconn, with tenure between as little as 28 days and as long as 6 months.

The media also do no mention the fact that the suicide rate at Foxconn is far less than the national average. According to the 2009 World Health Organisation research report, about 1 million people committed suicide around the world in 2009 of which 26% were in China. Assuming a population of 1.3 billion in China, the suicide rate is about 20 persons per 100,000 persons per annum. This report said that suicide is the fifth most common cause of death in China, and the most common cause among young women.

Why are the media evading these facts?

First, they want to earn eyeballs. When workers from other companies commit suicide, nobody cares. But when Huawei and Foxconn workers commit suicide, they will have full-page coverage. This is because Huawei and Foxconn are famous. For example, two persons jumped out of buildings in Shenzhen and died in April. Virtually no media reported that. In Guangzhou, two men took pesticide in a pact and one died. Three "second-generation poor persons" committed suicide together in Hangzhou. These suicides were unreported in the newspapers; even if reported, nobody cares. But the national media are stationed outside Foxconn, ready to report on more suicides.

Secondly, an in-depth report requires an exploration of corporate management. If one analyzes the specific reasons why the specific individuals committed suicide, one may get a good picture of the psychologies and social conditions of the post-90's generation but one cannot tie this easily to corporate management. In this way, the media lose their focus and the reason for running an in-depth investigation, and their reports therefore seem ill-informed. These reporters simply don't understand what corporations, or management, or manufacturing are about.

Thirdly, the "ten successive Foxconn suicides" and ten school ground murder cases are related to irresponsible media reporting. Overseas, these phenomena are known as "suicide contagion" or "violence contagion." In those ten school ground murder cases, almost 100 children died or were injured. The media were simply unable to explain administrative problems at specific schools. Therefore their reporting can only be called the classical "violence contagion." Compared to the school ground violence, the Foxconn workers' choice of locations and methods are even more classical "suicide contagion." Therefore, the media are the arch-criminal in leading young people to commit suicide in China. In mid-April, I called for attention on this issue but the media has been unwilling to address it.

Fourthly, Foxconn competitors are using these incidents to attack Foxconn. Recently, there was a popular Internet post about how Foxconn security guards beat up a worker and then tossed him out of a building. This post came originally from "Anhui" which allowed some people to figure out where the prime mover behind the scene is located. In 2005, a certain "Foxconn sweat shop factory" media report came from an overseas competitor who wanted to pry the Apple account away from Foxconn. So there are some people who think that some of the current media reports are being manipulated by Foxconn competitors.

I believe that the media should make objective reports. That is how to act responsibly. They should not manufacture news for personal interests.

[ESWN comment: Why do the Chinese media and Internet users seem to want to see Foxconn dead? I cannot not help but go back to August 2006 when Foxconn sued a newspaper editor and a newspaper reporter for 10,000,000 yuan each on defamatory reporting. They did not sue the newspaper -- they sued the media workers for huge sums of money. (The Unpublished FoxConn Story) "The FoxConn method of litigation was particularly vile. If they succeeded with this, all reporters would live in fear of litigation about their reporting. This was a challenge to the entire field of journalism in China as well as the freedom of press. Therefore, the reaction of the field of journalism contains an instinct of self-preservation. FoxConn had used a similar method to prosecute Commercial Times reporter Joyce Kuang in Taiwan, but they retreated under pressure from the Journalist Association. From thereon, very few reporters in Taiwan dared to report on Foxconn and even fewer dare to criticize Foxconn." A suicide cluster is a valid news story and therefore the Chinese media are using this occasion for payback time. That is one way to look at it.]


Suicide Rates At Foxconn (05/27/2010)
How many people commit suicide in China each year?

From The Irish Times , "About two million Chinese attempt to take their own lives each year, and 280,000 of those die."

What is the population size of China?

From China Population and Development Research Center , the population clock at this moment is 1,337,445,409.

What is the suicide rate (per 100,000) in China each year?

100,000 x 280,000 / 1,337,445,409 = 20.9 suicides per 100,000 persons each year

How many persons committed suicide at Foxconn (Shenzhen campuses) this year?

10 persons died after falling out of buildings. Two more fell down buildings but survived. Another slip the wrist but survived.

How many people work at the Foxconn (Shenzhen) factories?

From Xinhua , "Of Foxconn's 800,000 employees in China's mainland, 420,000 are based in Shenzhen."

What is the suicide rate among Foxconn (Shenzhen) workers?

100,000 x 10 / 420,000 = 2.38 suicides per 100,000 persons each year

So what is the big deal on Foxconn? The suicide rate (2.38) there is much lower than the national average (20.9). So there is nothing here -- you should all go home ...

Oh, wait. But this is not how these comparisons should work.

First, only about 5 months have passed out of the 12 months this year. Under an assumption of a constant suicide rate, there are expected to be 2.38 x 12 / 5 = 5.71 suicides per 100,000 persons this year.

What specific factors affect suicide rates in China?

From The Irish Times , "The rates of suicide are particularly high in the countryside, with rural suicide rates three times higher than in the cities." Therefore, the national suicide rate is raised by the rural areas. A proper comparison ought to be against the urban areas only.

From the World Health Organisation suicide rates (per 100,000) in selected urban areas by gender and age in China for 1999, we see:



The Foxconn workers are young persons in the 15-24 to 25-34 age groups. So the suicide rate (per 100,000) may be taken to be (3.5 + 6.3) / 2 = 4.9 suicides per 100,000 persons per annum.

From the World Health Organisation , the overall suicide rate in selected urban and rural areas in China for 1999 is 13.9. These are 1999 data. If we assume the same ratios between 15-34 and total population, the suicide rate (per 100,000) for persons 15-24 in Chinese urban areas today is 20.9 x 4.9 / 13.9 = 7.37 suicides per 100,000 persons.

Unfortunately, the assumption of constant suicide rates for the rest of the year will not hold. If you look at the first five months, there is a clear acceleration already in suicides/attempted suicides:

1. January 23, 2010
2. March 11, 2010
3. March 17, 2010 (attempted suicide)
4. March 29, 2010
5. April 6, 2010
6. April 7, 2010
7. May 6, 2010
8. May 11, 2010
9. May 14, 2010 (attempted suicide)
10. May 21, 2010
11. May 25, 2010
12. May 26, 2010

Why would the suicide rate pick up? See Wikipedia on Copycat Suicide:

A copycat suicide is defined as an emulation of another suicide that the person attempting suicide knows about either from local knowledge or due to accounts or depictions of the original suicide on television and in other media.

The massive wave of emulation suicides after a widely publicized suicide is known as the Werther effect, following the Werther novel of Goethe.

The well-known suicide serves as a model, in the absence of protective factors, for the next suicide. This is referred to as suicide contagion. They occasionally spread through a school system, through a community, or in terms of a celebrity suicide wave, nationally. This is called a suicide cluster.

To prevent this type of suicide, it is customary in some countries for the media to discourage suicide reports except in special cases.

...

Various countries have national journalism codes which range from one extreme of, "Suicide and attempted suicide should in general never be given any mention" (Norway) to a more moderate, "In cases of suicide, publishing or broadcasting information in an exaggerated way that goes beyond normal dimensions of reporting with the purpose of influencing readers or spectators should not occur. Photography, pictures, visual images or film depicting such cases should not be made public" (Turkey) Many countries do not have national codes but do have in-house guidelines along similar lines. In the US there are no industrywide standards and a survey of inhouse guides of 16 US daily newspapers showed that only three mentioned the word suicide and none gave guidelines about publishing the method of suicide. Craig Branson, online director of the American Society of News Editors (ASNE), has been quoted as saying, "Industry codes are very generic and totally voluntary. Most ethical decisions are left to individual editors at individual papers. The industry would fight any attempt to create more specific rules or standards, and editors would no doubt ignore them."

What will the Chinese and western media do? Camp outside the factory and try to scoop the next suicide? Or stay mum on future suicides to quell the copycat suicides?

(ESWN comment: There was a suicide at the neighborhood shopping mall today. Someone jumped from the seventh floor of the building into the flower bed on the ground level. The area was immediately blocked off and the body was quickly taken away. One hour later, shoppers wouldn't know what happened earlier. I understand that they will bring monks into the mall after midnight to say prayers. I wonder if I will read about this in the Hong Kong newspaper tomorrow.]

breaking news CHINA Foxconn 富士康26號晚發生第12起員工跳樓事件,十二跳了!



We do not welcome the culture of suicide at Foxconn!!!
Thorough investigation why employees are jumping off buildings!!!


5月23日下午,河南網友趙萬里在深圳富士康龍華園區外舉牌抗議,自稱不滿富士康十連跳後給出的官方說法,希望找出真相,阻止“第十一跳”,引來眾多富士康員工圍觀。

5月27淩晨來自香港媒體方面的消息,5月26日晚11點富士康深圳龍華廠區大潤發商場前發生第12起員工跳樓事件,現場尚存血跡。死者是C2宿舍一位男性。RTHK引述新華社報導,稱昨晚11時32分接到富士康一葉姓員工電話,稱其10分鐘前在富士康龍華園區D2宿舍樓宿管辦門口見到一男子倒於地上,現場已被封鎖。富士康媒體辦向記者證實,富士康當晚確有一名員工墜樓身亡。   深圳富士康再有員工墮樓,是今年以來第12宗,造成10死2重傷。新華社報導,最新一宗在昨晚11時許發生,富士康證實這名員工墮樓身亡。 

  富士康大股東郭台銘昨日到深圳,瞭解連串員工墮樓事件。對於無法阻止悲劇發生,他多次鞠躬道歉,並願意收回要求員工簽署的自殺免責聲明,又指部分自殺個案涉及男女感情問題,他無辦法阻止事件發生。

  有自殺員工家屬在廠房外哭訴,要求徹查事件。

  深圳市委書記王榮亦到富士康廠房瞭解。

  新華社英文版已經發了消息,第12跳得到了最終的確認。

  ■距第11跳還不到一天

  25日淩晨,富士康科技集團觀瀾園區華南培訓中心一名員工墜樓死亡。這是今年以來該集團第11宗員工墜樓事件,共造成9死2重傷。新華社記者正趕往現場調查。

  前幾天的富士康第十跳已經引起社會強烈反映了,就在第十跳還沒有調查清楚之時,富士康又迎來了第11跳。而鴻海總裁郭台銘剛於 24日回應,富士康絕對不是血汗工廠。


  郭台銘24日出席“天府四川寶島行啟動儀式暨經貿合作論壇”,對於富士康“10連跳”,他表示,外界不瞭解真相,“現在很多事都不能說,我們都默默在做。”外界質疑他苛刻員工,實情是富士康絕非只要錢不要命的“血汗工廠”。郭台銘稱,富士康員工共80多萬,再加全球的鴻海集團多達90多萬人,員工的確很難管理。郭台銘表示,“但是我們有信心,很快就會把這些狀況全部穩住。”

  而前日起,深圳富士康公司已經在部分一線車間播放員工喜愛的背景音樂,以舒緩員工的緊張情緒。同時,從深圳富士康員工處獲悉,該公司部分宿舍的樓頂也開始安裝和加高防護欄等。

  ■富士康要員工簽“生死狀”

  鴻海集團旗下的深圳富士康昨日發生今年以來第11件員工跳樓事件,傳出富士康為了防範員工輕生,下達“防自殺動員令”,要求全體員工簽署同意書,內容提到絕不以極端方式傷害自己,並要求全員通報行為有異的同事,也會獎勵舉報者。


富士康要求員工簽署的不自殺協定
  鴻海總裁郭台銘今天一早即搭機前往深圳坐鎮,並開放向來神秘的富士康廠區接受外界採訪;另外,深圳市政府決定今天展開專案行動和措施,嚴防富士康的“第 12跳”,例如由公安局培訓公司保安等。

  富士康昨天“第11跳”的19歲李海,在富士康僅工作42天,警方已在他的宿舍找到遺書,內容表示心理壓力大、現實與期待有落差,還有家庭因素等等;而據《香港明報》報導,有線民表示,李海在死前4天即在手機上預告自殺,自稱“前幾天被保安打,日子沒發(法)過了,在(再)見了”。

  一名自稱深圳富士康員工在網路上留言,透露在發生“第10跳”後,富士康在24日就發出一份給員工的通告,強調富士康“尊重及關懷員工”,提醒員工在工作和個人上發生苦惱,都可致電公司求助專線,或投訴、工會熱線、員工意見箱等管道表達意見,公司會派專人處理,並鼓勵舉報異常狀態的同事,舉報屬實將獲獎勵。






收到一個富士康員工的來信:媒體太無恥了

倍可親全球快訊李易先生,您好!

首先,講一下我的實際身份吧,2002年入職富士康,現在也還在職,祖籍四川,西藏出生,算起來在富士康也呆了近10年了吧,對富士康我還算是有一點點的發言權的。

前幾天,我在內部網站上看到您寫給郭總裁寫的公開信了,現在外面的各種網站上轉貼的也是鋪天蓋地了,在轉帖後面的謾駡和攻擊也是鋪天蓋地,李易被罵的狗血噴頭,太多留言都滑稽到可笑的地步,完全沒過大腦,更別談什麼理性的評論了。

忍不住給您寫了這封信,聊聊我的一些看法,這也許並不能代表所有富士康員工的看法,但是,它至少代表了相當大一部分員工的真實看法。

待遇問題

很多人覺得富士康就是900的底薪+加班費,剝削員工了。我也認為有點低了,但是富士康也有3K、5K、1萬甚至百萬以上的工作崗位啊,有多大胃口吃多少飯,不要指望老闆會把你創造的所有利潤都給你,在哪家公司都一樣,員工至少要能創造10倍於工資的價值老闆才會請你。

心態問題

給大家講個小故事吧,我曾經做過一段時間HR工作,常去人才市場招人,遇到一個很有趣的事情,公司找個網管,主要工作就是辦公室網路和辦公用機的維護,這個活含金量不高,大概月薪也就2.5K-3K左右吧。面試的時候來了一哥們,非一級院校畢業,應屆本科,聊了一下,我的評價是基本符合崗位需求,就問他期望薪資,這哥們想了一下說:“富士康,月薪8K吧。”,我接著問他“您這8K是根據什麼提的?”,他回答“我租房得**錢,每月給爸媽**錢,女朋友花**錢,我還計畫買個筆記本,每月要存**錢,加上電話啊、坐車、應酬啥的,所以一個月至少要8K。”我無語!接下來我對他產生興趣了,就尾隨他在人才市場轉悠,這哥們見公司就投簡歷,薪資要求還不一樣,2K,3K,5K的都有。

這說明啥呢,某些應屆生自身思想有問題,不去思考自己能做什麼,看人下菜,以為大公司薪酬就高,小公司薪酬就低。這是現在新新人類的普遍行為,總覺得公司給的少了,自己虧了,不能沉下心把事情做好。

台幹陸幹待遇差別問題

我承認,同一個崗位台幹(或者其他外籍)比大陸幹部工資高很多,以前我也覺得挺不公平的,後來想通了,你就看到外乾薪資比你高了,但是你沒看到他們也是離鄉背井,拋兒棄女的嗎?他們也不容易啊。這個情況相信郭總裁也認識到了,就拿我們部門來說吧,以前幾十個台幹,現在只剩下3個了,主要幹部都大陸化了,只要你有能力,老闆是捨不得讓你走的。

員工關愛問題

很多人在抨擊富士康工會,說工會沒幹事,整天就在忽悠大家。我和工會的人接觸不少,對他們做的事有所瞭解。其實,說句大實話,你要指望中國工會和美國、韓國工會一樣,領導大家罷工、加薪,那你就不要在大陸呆了,在中國我還還沒看到有哪一家工會是這麼幹的。富士康工會每年組織員工返鄉(幾十萬人的火車票啊)、子女入學、員工歌唱比賽、子女暑假寄託、和電臺合作才藝表演等等工作,都是實事,但是人員基數太大了,分下去,個人就感覺不到了。

管理問題

富士康產線的管理是很嚴謹的,甚至嚴苛,但是各位能否出個好主意,能讓員工開心、輕鬆的做好產線上的活呢?我反正是沒想出來,我沒本事讓員工在產線上一邊擰螺絲一邊玩拼圖。

作為曾經也身在一線的老員工,我完全可以體會到富士康基層工人的辛苦,工資最低,工作最多,一有做錯的地方,或許就被某些沒什麼素質的管理幹部罵個狗血噴頭。但這也不能成為跳樓的主要因素,頂多起到了輔助作用,我還是傾向於社會因素,個人因素!

現實的確很殘酷,社會的確很瘋狂!活生生的現實會壓得你窒息,愛情,事業,家庭,當你什麼都感覺遙遠的時候,的確你離死亡不遠了!這也就不難解釋為何跳樓的都是基層員工了,即使是湘潭大學畢業的盧新也是一貧如洗,都是弱勢群體,沒見那個經理跑去自由落體。人,或為物所累,或為情所困,或營營碌碌一生,或南北賓士一世,卻都在世俗而現實地活著。

跳樓門事件把富士康推到了風口浪尖,外界大部分認為公司的管理體制有問題,血汗工廠,敢問你在哪裡不被壓榨呢?不壓榨哪裡產生剩餘價值呢?這是常識啊!不信你自己開一個工廠試試看啊!

我和同事們都非常非常反感媒體搞出來的“九連跳”,“十連跳”這種字眼,它讓人感覺似乎後面還有“十一連跳”,“N連跳”,難道,大家都在眼巴巴期待著後面還有多少人跳樓!?無恥,實在太無恥了。

其實,我們還得感謝郭總裁,富士康在全國範圍來講還算好的了,包吃包住,發餉準時,看看那些黑心的小廠,16個小時上班,2,3塊錢一小時的加班費,我們就該慶倖了!公司門口等待應聘的長龍足以說明一切。在中國就是這樣,你不做,那不好意思,後面站著去,別妨礙後面的人填表排隊!我想,要是沒有像郭總裁這類的資本家來投資,我們的勞動力估計還要廉價,他給祖國大陸做得貢獻是顯而易見的!

說到郭總裁,我講一個小故事,記得2004年春節全體大聯歡,開場前,幾萬人在一起,吵的要死。突然,燈光暗下來,郭總裁從大門口走進來了,舞臺大螢幕上出現了他的特寫,你們知道出現什麼狀況了嗎?好多員工特別是女員工都哭了,因為在大螢幕上看到郭總裁好多的白頭發,還有老人斑,以前都沒有的!我不想多講恭維和討好的話,但是這個小插曲應該還是可以說明一些問題的吧。

最後,我想對死去的年輕人說幾句肺腑之言,都說死者為大,人都死了,一切入土為安,但我忍不住還是要囉嗦一下,就在你們自由落體尋求解脫的時候,你們可曾想過你們的父母,含辛茹苦的把你們養大,卻落得個白髮人送黑髮人,可否想過她們撕心裂肺的痛?人都死了,就不說你們不孝了,願你們在九泉下安息,也希望你們的父母,親人節哀順便。

一個富士康普通員工 周洪波

Fifty Cent Gangs Are Not Employed Just By The Government
05/26/2010 (HSW BBS)
First, let me tell you about my situation. I joined Foxconn in 2002 and I am still working there. My family origins are in Sichuan and I was born in Tibet. I have been at Foxconn for almost ten years, so I am somewhat qualified to speak out.

Several days ago, I saw the open letter from Mr. Li Yi to our President Terry Guo as posted on the company intra-net. This letter had been carried all over the Internet with all sorts of abusive comments and attacks added by Internet users. Many of the comments were preposterous and thoughtless, never mind any rational critiques.

I could not restrain myself from writing this letter and tell you about my views. These views may not represent all Foxconn workers, but they represent a sizeable number of them.

Many people feel that Foxconn's base salary of 900 yuan (plus overtime pay) is exploitative. I think that it is a bit low too. But Foxconn has hundreds of thousands of job positions. Even raising the pay a little bit for each person will lead to a big hit on the company bottom line. The boss cannot be expected to give your all the profits. It is the same anywhere. The workers have to create value at least 10 times their wages before the boss will hire you.

Let me tell you a story. I had worked in the human resources department before and I had to recruit employees at job fairs. There was an interesting incident. The company was hiring an Internet manager to maintain office networks and computers. The monthly salary for this easy job was going to be 2,500 to 3,000 yuan. The applicant that I interviewed was a recent university graduate. After some initial screening in which I determined that he met the basic requirements, I asked him what he wanted for salary. He thought about it and said: "Foxconn? 8,000 yuan per month." I asked: "What is the basis for your 8,000 yuan?" He said: "I need to rent a room at XXX yuan per month; I need to send my parents XXX yuan per month; my girlfriend spends XXX yuan per month; I want to buy a notebook computer; I need to save XXX yuan per month; I need to pay for telephone, transportation, social events, etc. Therefore I need at least 8,000 yuan per month." I was speechless! But I got interested in him and I followed him on his rounds at the job fair. He applied at every company while requesting 2,000, 3,000 or 5,000 yuan per month in salary.

What does this tell us? Certain recent graduates have problems with their thinking. They do not consider what their abilities are. Instead, they think that big companies pay high salaries while small companies pay low salaries. It is very common for people nowadays to think that if the company pays too low, you come out losing and you can't concentrate on working hard.

I admit that for the identical job position, a Taiwanese (or other foreign nationality) manager gets paid a lot higher than a mainland Chinese manager. At first, I thought that this was quite unfair. Then I began to appreciate it. You only see that the Taiwanese managers get more pay, but you don't see that they have to live away from their families. It is not easy on them. I am sure that President Guo recognizes that. Take our department. There used to be a dozen Taiwanese managers but there are only three left. Most of the managers are now mainlanders. If you are good, the boss won't let you go.

Many people criticize the Foxconn labor union for not doing anything useful. I have lots of contact with the union folks and I know what they do. Actually, to be completely frank, do you expect a Chinese union to organize strikes and get more pay like American or Korean unions do? I have never seen a single labor union do that in China. The Foxconn labor union organizes the workers to return home each Spring Festival (that means arranging train tickets for several hundred thousand workers), schooling for the children of the workers, singing competitions, child care for the children during summer, radio talent competitions, etc. These are facts, but when there are too many workers, some people may not get to share in it.

Management on the assembly lines are strict, even stern. But do you have any good ideas to let the workers be happy and relaxed on the production line? Anyway, I haven't come up with such ideas. I don't know how to let workers put in screws and play jigsaw puzzles on the production line at the same time.

As a former worker in the front line, I can appreciate that the base Foxconn workers are working hard while receiving low pay. When they make mistakes, they are severely reprimanded by managers who are not always the kindest. But these cannot be the major reasons why people jump off buildings. At most, these can be related reasons. I lean towards social and personal reasons for those suicides.

Life is cruel, and society is insane! Reality can crush you into suffocation. Romance, career, family. When you think that everything is so faraway, you are not that faraway from death! This explains why all those who committed suicide are lower-level workers. Even the Xiangtan University graduate Lu Xin was impoverished. They are weak and vulnerable. We do not see any senior-level managers go into a free fall. Many people keep living in spite of their problems with materials, romance, toil or travel.

The suicides have put Foxconn in the eye of the storm. Many outsiders think that there must be a problem with the company management system (to wit, a sweat factory). But where can you work without being exploited? Which places do not extract extra value from you? This is commonsense! If you don't believe it, you can try and start your own factory!

I and my colleagues resent the hot terms such as "nine successive jumps," "ten successive jumps" used by the media. This makes people look forward to "eleven successive jumps" ... "N successive jumps." Are you waiting to count how many more people will jump!? Shameless. This is really too shameless.

Actually, we should be grateful to President Guo. In China, Foxconn is a relatively good place to be -- they provide food and board, and they issue pay checks on time. Those evil small factories make you work 16 hours a day with 2 to 3 yuan per hour overtime if you are lucky! The long queues of job seekers in front of the factory gate should explain everything. This is how it is in China! If you don't want to work, then you should get out of the way and let those behind you fill out their application forms! I think that without capitalists like President Guo willing to invest, Chinese workers will be paid even less. His contributions to the motherland are clear to see!

I have a story about President Guo. At the 2004 Spring Festival party, several tens of thousands of workers were assembled in the plaza. Suddenly, the lights dimmed and President Guo came through the front gate. There was a close-up of him shown on the large projection screen on the stage. Do you know what happened? Many of the workers, especially the women, began to cry, because they saw that President Guo had white hair and his face was freckled with age where none existed before! I don't want to say anything more in the way of flattering and fawning, but this small episode should explain certain problems.

Finally I want to say something to the deceased young people. It is said that they should be left in peace now that they have moved on. But I cannot help but nag a little. As you dropped into free fall, did you think about your parents who brought you up with such efforts? Now they have to attend your funeral. Did you think about the heart-rending pain that they had to go through? Since you are gone now, there is no point in accusing you of lack of filial piety. I pray that you rest in peace, and I hope that your parents and relatives have peace of mind.

Signed: A ordinary Foxconn worker Zhou Hongbo


Foxconn's Waiver Agreement
05/26/2010

On May 25, many Chinese websites began to report on This letter asks employees to promise that they will not use extreme methods to hurt themselves or others. Should the employees commit suicide or otherwise inflict injuries upon themselves, the employees and their families may not ask the company to either pay more than the legally allowed compensation or otherwise use extreme methods to affect production at the company. A signature is required at the bottom, together with employee number, citizen ID number, date of signature, personal contact information and emergency family contact information.

To be more specific, the employees are signing to keep three promises:

1. If I should encounter any problems or hardship in the course of my work and my life in the future, I will contact or seek help from the "employee care center" and other departments in order to seek help and resolution;

2. I shall assume responsibility for my own actions. If I should encounter difficulties or setbacks, I will contact my relatives in a timely manner, or report to the company managers. At the same time, I agree that my colleagues and the company's human resources personnel may contact and communicate with my family members but not in a way that might hurt myself or others. I agree that the company may send me to get medical treatment if I should exhibit abnormality in physical and/or mental health in order to safeguard the well-being of myself and/or others;

3. In the even of an accident not caused by the company (including suicide, self-inflicted injuries, etc), I agree that the company may deal in accordance with the relevant laws. I and/or my family shall not make demands beyond what is legally mandated, nor take any extreme actions that affect the reputation of the company, nor interfere with the normal production process at the company.

Is Foxconn under social pressure?